Should I Learn Paintless
Dent Repair?
You've probably
searched the web and found several companies that sell PDR Training.
Most companies make Paintless Dent Repair sound easy, or say it's the
pot of
gold at the end of the rainbow. There are a LOT of exaggerated claims
made about PDR. Some of the most common are:
Are you ready for the truth?
There is NO huge
need for Paintless
Dent Repair techs in the U.S.
The PDR market is saturated right now with techs in most areas of the
United States. This is true in both the wholesale and hail markets.
Many paintless dent repair training schools tell you to look in the
yellow pages to see how many techs are in your
area. This will tell you nothing. Most techs don't advertise. Call a
few car dealerships, or body shops in your area and ask them
if they need the services of a PDR tech. They will probably tell you
they already use one. Many dealerships in saturated areas expect
wholesale techs to work for $50 - $65 a car. Hail repair is not
the "get rich quick" road it used to be either, with prices for hail
work going down every season. In short, the glory days of wholesale and
hail Paintless Dent Repair are over in the United States.
The
only market that isn't saturated with PDR techs in most areas of the
U.S. is retail. However doing retail PDR takes business skills as well
as PDR skills, and the work quality must be higher than most wholesale
or hail techs can perform. in addition doing large dents by PDR (LDPDR)
is a new and very profitable part of this trade, but the skill level
required for this is high, and few techs are doing it because of
the skills and training required.
In
some countries such as Canada, Australia, Japan, China, and others, a
career in Paintless Dent Repair may well be worth looking into in
wholesale, hail, and retail markets. PDR is still relatively
unknown or just starting out in may areas of the world.
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Many PDR techs are
now making $250, 000 a year and
more.
This has not been true for a long time. Depending on the geographical
area, a good tech generally makes between $70,000 and up to $180,000 a
year for very experienced techs in major cities. Technicians working
for large dent removal companies are making far less than this because
of the commission structures of most of these companies. In rural areas
the wages can be about 30% to 50% lower than in major cities. Retail
PDR is far less crowded, but even in this market $180,000 - $200,000 is
about the
best an experienced tech will do in a major city. PDR techs that are
just starting out can expect to struggle the first year, and take from
two to three years (depending on their training and natural abilitiy),
to get to a good wage level. In short, the
days of making a quarter million a year are over in any Paintless Dent
Repair related
market in the U.S. In some countries where PDR is just catching on,
wages can be hard to estimate because the trade is still new there.
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Chasing
hail is a great way to
make fantastic money and see the world. NOT
true! Hail technicians can still make very good money during an active
hail storm season, but these seasons are rare and this is the
exception rather than the rule. The hail techs that are still making
good money are very experienced and very well connected. A new tech
trying to break into the hail repair market will
usually be met with a very cold reception from other technicians
because they are seen as just more competition. Hail technicians have
to deal with a number of issues that are very demanding on themselves
and their families. Techs often have to be away from home for weeks or
even months at a time. The hail technician may work long hours,
sometimes 10-12 hours a day to earn their living.
In addition,
the hail market has been over run with very poor quality techs that are
driving down prices across the entire hail market. Insurance companies
are now getting into the act by forcing techs to use their price guides
which are lower than what the industry standard have been. Since
PDR
techs need a location to work that is close to the hail storm, and
insurance companies prefer body shops as the location, the body shop is
demanding a larger percentage of the PDR technicians check. In
addition, many hail brokers are employing poor quality techs and
further cutting prices to get work.
In short “chasing hail” is a very tough way to make a living any more.
If you feel we are just being too negative, try logging on to the
worlds largest Paintless Dent repair forum at www.doording.com
and see what hail tech from all over the world are saying about the state of the hail repair industry.
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Many
dealerships throughout the
country are looking for quality Paintless Dent Repair technicians. NOT
true in most areas of the U.S. As mentioned above most
dealers
have their pick of PDR technicians. Even quality technicians can have a
tough time in wholesale now because of poorly trained
techs that approach dealers on a regular basis. On the surface you
would think that a poorly trained tech would not last very long so it
shouldn’t really affect the wholesale market that much. The problem is,
most dealers are after the lowest price possible, and quality isn’t
nearly as important as a rock bottom price to them. In short, most
dealers are NOT looking for quality techs, they are looking for techs
that will work as cheap as possible. The poor quality tech knows he
can’t compete with the quality tech on workmanship, so he does the only
thing he can do, he cuts his prices. The quality tech knows he must
match or come closer to that discounted price in many cases or risk
loosing the account. This cycle repeats itself until the area is ruined
for the quality tech and he must now do whatever he can to hold on to
the few accounts that still care about quality work. This means the
quality tech will be doing tougher dents, to keep these accounts. If
you think we are exaggerating, go to www.doording.com
and see what techs from all
over the world are saying about the wholesale market today.
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The
retail market for Paintless Dent Removal is a gold mine and easy to get into. NOT
true. The retail market is far less crowded than wholesale or hail, but
it is NOT easy to get into. The money can be great, but only
quality
techs will do well in this
market. Poor quality techs seldom last long
in retail. In addition to being a quality tech, business skills and
a good knowledge of marketing and sales is necessary to succeed in this
market. There are many different types of retail.
Mobile and specialty retail can be particularly profitable. See the FAQ
page for more information on what it takes to succeed at retail PDR.
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You
can learn PDR in one week and start making money right away.
There is NO WAY you can learn this art in one week well
enough to practice at home for a few months, and then begin your
career. Some Paintless Dent Repair schools will claim to have a method
of training that
enables you to do just that. They know most people are not willing to
take two or three weeks off and train properly, so they tell you what
you want to hear. Many will even guarantee that you will repair a “real
world” dent in one week or your money back. This so-called dent will
usually be a very small and soft dent that is easily done, but is very
rare in the real world of PDR.
You
need to learn the basics
of PDR well enough so that you can EFFECTIVELY practice at home for two
to six months depending on where you train. After that, in most cases
you will then be ready to start fixing real world dents. The TopGun
process is one of the fastest methods known to learn this art from
scratch. But even with this method, two weeks of training is minimal,
and three weeks is recommended to
assure you of a solid start. Any competent PDR tech will tell you
Paintless Dent Repair is one of the toughest skills to learn. It
requires dedication, patience, and time to master.
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You
can learn PDR by video with
very little one on one instruction.
PDR
training by video is one of the worst ways of all to approach training.
Many videos claim to be new or revolutionary. But they leave the
student worse off than if they had just started fresh with a quality
trainer. Students that “learn" by video will almost certainly develop
many bad habits that will be hard to break. Some of the toughest
students to teach Paintless Dent Repair to are those that have "learned"
from a video before getting real training. To Learn this art you must
see very small visual cues that can be different for each student. A
video can’t show these to you because everyone sees things differently.
Neither can a video communicate what you are doing wrong while
practicing. By the time a student realizes they need real training, the
damage is done. If they get proper training they quickly find out they
are worse off than if they came in with no practice time. This is
because they must now get rid of all their bad habits first, before
they can really start to learn PDR correctly. See the FAQ page for more
information.
Not all videos are harmful however. There are some
professional videos that are useful for experienced technicians to
learn from, and are recommended by many including TopGun. These
professional videos contain warnings about students trying to learn
this art
by video.
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The
best Paintless Dent repair training schools teach by putting you on
dents right away with little class time.
Training
hands on with little theory or class time is also one of the worst ways
to train. It's like learning to fly an airplane with no classroom
instruction. Jumping right in and "learning" as you go will almost
guarantee you a miserable experience AFTER you train. Most often, the
student will not even realize he was improperly trained until he is at
home and struggling while practicing. This type of training is easy on
the trainer, but very bad for the student. The right theory and
classroom time will always shorten your learning curve, and make you a
tech that can eventually teach yourself.
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The
best deal for the money is to get your PDR training and tools from the same place.
Definitely NOT true. Many PDR training schools offer package deals with
training and tool sets. No matter what you hear, there is no tool
company that makes every type of tool well. Most tool companies
make sub standard tools that are of little value in the real world of
PDR. If you want a true
quality set of tools, you should choose from the five or six tool
manufacturers that make quality PDR tools. You should ONLY choose your
tools from these quality manufacturers during your training, not
before. A good trainer will always guide you in the proper selection of
your tool set, and will teach you how to recognize the MANY differences
between a good quality and poor quality PDR tool.
ALWAYS ask
to see and keep a copy of the ORIGINAL manufacturers tool invoices at
any Paintless Dent Removal training company that sells tools. Many
training
companies make the tools themselves, or have their tools made in China
or Taiwan with a HUGE mark up to the student. See the Beginning
training curriculum page and FAQ page for more information.
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Free
PDR training from the large franchise dent companies?
There is NO free lunch. Many people see these adds and think this may
be a great way to get the training they need for free. The problem is
most franchises control a large part of your life from the moment you
sign up. Unfortunately, the Paintless Dent Repair training at many of
these franchises is
often geared towards wholesale speed and production rather than quality
because it has to be in order to generate the volume they need. Most
all of these techs are on commission, and must meet their quota above
all else. If these techs decide to just slow down and take it easy,
they will quickly be demoted to lots that are harder to make a living at.
If they decide to quit, the franchise WILL
pursue them in court and make
them pay back the money they owe for the training, and many other
expenses including all legal expenses. This happens even if the tech
moves out of state.
In addition, the
percentages actually paid to the tech are small, and in most cases
can change at the whim of the company no mater how the contract is
written. If you decide to go this
route for your PDR training, make sure you have a lawyer look over the
ENTIRE contract they
want you to sign. ESPECIALLY the small print. You may be surprised at
how much control over your life and finances you will have to sign
away. There are many techs that are now stuck in a franchise
making much less money than they could on their own. Unfortunately they
can't
get out because of the legal problems involved. The best advice to give
anyone about “training for free” with
these companies is to talk to working techs other than
the techs the company gives you to talk to that have worked for them
for a
while. These techs usually get a bonus for signing unsuspecting techs
up with the company. Also, have a lawyer look over all contracts THOROUGHLY.
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Anyone can learn Paintless Dent Repair? This
is not true. To learn PDR well enough to make a good living at
it, you need a number of things besides quality training. Good or
correctable vision is a must. 20/20 with any astigmatism correctable
with glasses or contacts is a standard requirement. You also need
above average hand eye coordination. If you don't enjoy working with
your hands, PDR is not a good career choice. If you are an impatient
person or generally feel that "close enough is good enough," then you
will most likely not have the patience required to master this art.
Patient people that pay attention to detail always do the best at
PDR. Also, If you have any joint or back problems, PDR may not be for you.
An honest trainer can evaluate you over the
phone
and can usually tell if Paintless Dent Repair is a good fit for you.
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The Truth about Paintless Dent Repair Training Schools
Now
you may be asking yourself, "Why does TopGun have a website where they
sell Paintless Dent Repair training, but almost try and talk you out of
training? Why do we
tell you that PDR is not the easy road to riches as almost all training
companies do?" The answer is simple. If we hide the truth from you, will
you believe us about anything else? We know that even after telling you
the truth, some people will find that wholesale PDR is still viable in
their area. Or they may decide after doing the research to start a
retail business. Still others may live in countries like Canada,
Australia, China, and parts of Europe where there is still a need for
quality PDR techs. These are the people we want to train.
We also
know that most people looking at Paintless Dent Repair as a career,
will go to the cheapest company they can find the first time they
train. The people that train with these companies will eventually need
proper training or they will just drop out. We hope the ones that don't
drop out will remember that we were honest with them right from the
start, and that they will come to us for the proper training later on.
At Top Gun PDR training, our motto is "The FIRST and LAST Training You
Will Ever Need." Note: Please see the FAQ page for
more information.
The
one-year drop out rate among people that train at most Paintless Dent
Removal training schools
is estimated to be over 95%. Most people that train at these types of
schools give up before making any money at this art. If
you find this high drop out rate hard to believe, we have a suggestion.
Go to the worlds largest independent PDR forum where techs from all over the world
discuss PDR related issues at www.doording.com
and
do a search on training. After your search, ask questions about
training on this forum and you will find everything we have told you is
true. There are many stories from techs on these forums that have
succeeded and those that have been scammed. You will usually find that
most experienced techs say the best training is given by small
independent
techs and trainers. This forum is an invaluable aid to anyone's
education and we
at Top Gun PDR Training™ highly recommend a thorough search of its
content. This forum is also an excellent place to find an independent
trainer if you decide TopGun PDR Training School is not for you.
The most important advice we can give you as far as
training is concerned is Let the Buyer Beware! Talk to as many working techs as possible who have trained with the
company you are thinking about training with. Don't just talk with a
person or two that a company gives you to call. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. It's
your money! See the FAQ page for more information.
The most
important advice we can give you concerning PDR as a business
opportunity is to check you market area thoroughly for tech
saturation. See the FAQ page for more information.
For most
people who want to make a career of Paintless Dent Repair the best
approach in the U.S. may be to pursue retail PDR. If you decide after
doing your market research to go with retail, TopGun has many
specific and proven programs to help you with retail marketing and
sales. These marketing programs have proven themselves many times with
many different technicians throughout this country and overseas.
References are available on our marketing programs if needed. Don’t be
fooled by some training companies that offer marketing assistance, ask
to speak with people that have been helped by their programs. A
successful marketing program is every bit as necessary as being a
skilled technician to succeed in this art.
I hope we have
given you an honest look at the Paintless Dent Repair industry as it is
today. Please remember to do your market research in your area to see
how saturated it is BEFORE
paying for Paintless Dent Repair training
from anyone.
If you would like more information, please read our FAQ page and
visit the rest of our site. You can also call
TopGun with any questions you may have.